Thank you for making time to visit with us about a ‘top of mind’ topic. Our readers would like to get to know you a bit better. Can you please tell us about one or two life experiences that most shaped who you are today?
My mother’s work had a tremendous effect on who I became as a person, as well as on my career path. She was a social worker who worked with HIV/AIDS patients in the 1980’s — a time when there was a great deal of fear and ostracism of those patients, with few people willing to care for them. This was in pre-HIPAA days, so when I was a child, I would sometimes accompany her when she spent time with those patients. She would sit with them and listen to their stories — people who were dying, who had visible lesions on their bodies and were often surrounded by their chosen families, not their biological ones. Those experiences taught me to see kindness and goodness and feel empathy for all people. It also taught me to be brave in caring for those who have been deemed undeserving of love and care. All around us, people were saying really offensive things about HIV/AIDS patients. But my mom went ahead and showed love and respect for them despite how deeply unpopular it was to do.
Another transformative experience was a summer I spent after my first year of law school, interning at the Equal Justice Initiative in Alabama working on death penalty and other appeal cases. One case I assisted with involved a woman who was in prison with a life sentence for a crime she did not commit. By visiting her in prison and spending time listening to her story and then scouring the court records, I was able to find the evidence needed to prove her innocence. Bryan Stevenson and his team were able to use that evidence to successfully appeal her case and secure her freedom. That experience taught me the value of listening — of sitting with people and hearing their truth. A very powerful lesson that has stayed with me throughout my life.
You are a successful leader. Which two character traits do you think were most instrumental to your success?
I am direct. I tell it like it is. I am also deeply empathetic and try to really see and connect with people, no matter who they are. Those are the traits that I believe have been most helpful in my life and career.
What’s the most interesting discovery you’ve made since you started leading your organization?
In philanthropy, we like to talk and hear about our successes. What I’ve learned is the importance of talking about the things that have not worked at all or as well as expected. Acknowledging the failures is essential to figuring out how to do it better the next time round. People are often surprised when I speak about initiatives that aren’t going well; but it’s also been interesting to see the really positive response to our willingness to talk about the efforts that didn’t work out along with our wins. It shows that we’re trying new approaches and learning and growing as we do.
Can you please tell our readers more about how you or your organization intends to make a significant social impact?
Making a significant impact is the Humana Foundation’s north star. We center everything we do around the real impact our efforts have on the lives and communities we serve. We test, we learn and scale health and healthcare solutions to drive more equitable health outcomes for diverse populations of children, seniors and veterans through grantmaking, research and partnerships. We use quantitative and qualitative measures to assess impact and have a chief impact officer whose job it is to determine the most effective approaches for measuring and ensuring that the work we are doing has the intended effect across our portfolio. But impact only matters when people feel that their lives or situations have improved. So ultimately, we want to make sure that people are feeling that the initiatives we support are changing their lives for the better. That matters as much, if not more, than any quantitative measure of success.
What makes you feel passionate about this cause more than any other?
There are many reasons I am passionate about health equity work. As mentioned earlier, experiencing the care my mother gave to HIV/AIDS patients and growing up in a family culture where helping marginalized people was the norm shaped my commitment to that cause. Another experience that was important in cementing my passion was the love and care my father received from hospice nurses when he was dying after he had a serious stroke. My father was a poor Black man who was often not seen as deserving because of his skin color and economic status. And yet, those healthcare workers showed him such love and respect, and made his last days such a gift. That has stayed with me constantly in the past 13 years since his death. Everyone deserves to feel loved, respected and valued no matter their socioeconomic circumstances. I feel passionate about the work Humana Foundation does because it’s all about that. We are working to ensure all people receive the mental and physical healthcare they rightly deserve by removing the barriers and boundaries that have created systemic and structural disparities in getting that care.
Without naming names, could you share a story about an individual who benefitted from your initiatives?
One of our partners is OATS, a nonprofit we fund that works with older adults to provide technology tools and training to help enrich their lives and promote social engagement. A couple of years ago, I visited one of their Senior Planet centers in Ohio that the Foundation had supported and spent time with seniors who were attending a technology training program.
I met this one woman who told me how important this center and these classes have been for her. For a long time she had been intimidated by technology and embarrassed to ask for help, especially since her grandkids would tease her and tell her she was too old to learn when she asked them to teach her how to use a digital program. Their attitude and her lack of skills made her feel devalued and incompetent. But since finding this center she had gained both skills and a community of fellow learners. She proudly showed me the different ways she could go online to pay her bills, search the internet for information and use Facebook to connect with her family and friends. She talked about the sense of autonomy and pride she now had because of her new abilities. Her story proved to me yet again the power in giving people the space and skills to have agency and believe in their own capabilities. It was wonderful to hear how this woman’s disposition, confidence and connectedness had been positively changed through the program. It also made me want to give her grandkids a good talking to.
We all want to help and to live a life of purpose. What are three actions anyone could take to help address the root cause of the problem you’re trying to solve?
Number one is to spend time with someone who is different from yourself and listen to their lived experience without judgement.
The second thing is to have a curious mindset and invest time in reading and learning about an issue so that you have an in depth understanding of the problem.
And thirdly, use your voice in whatever room you’re in. Voting is really important. But so is getting involved in the work and encouraging others to do so. For example, if you belong to a religious organization, speak up if you see a need or an opportunity where your group could help an underserved population. If you’re in school, consider ways you and your fellow students can volunteer to support a community organization that is helping others different from yourself.
My overall message is to not be afraid to go into spaces where there are people you’re not used to associating with. There is something really powerful about interacting with individuals unlike yourself because you’ll find, while there are differences, there are also many commonalities. The best way to increase equity is through connectivity and proximity.